Los Angeles Angels: Mike Scioscia, Jerry Dipoto not getting along

August 13, 2013 – 9:07 pm by Ryan Phillips

Mike Scioscia Jerry Dipoto

To say the Los Angeles Angels are a disappointment this season is a gigantic understatement. Entering Tuesday night the Angels have a record of 53-64 and sit 15 games behind the Texas Rangers for first place in the American League West. The awful performance by the Halos this season reportedly even has manager Mike Scioscia and general manager Jerry Dipoto at each other’s throats.

FOX Sports’ Ken Rosenthal is reporting that there is serious tension between Scioscia and Dipoto. It has gotten so bad that one of the two is likely to lose his job sometime soon.

Dipoto is in his second year as the team’s general manager and has been the leading force of what can only be described as several disastrous acquisitions. He acquired right-handers Joe Blanton, Tommy Hanson and Ryan Madson last offseason and all three have been busts (Madson has never even stepped on a mound for the Angels).

Dipoto also signed outfielder Josh Hamilton to a five-year, $125 million contract last offseason at the behest of owner Artie Moreno. The Hamilton contract already looks like a loser, especially because it robbed the team of payroll flexibility. In exchange for the $25 million the Angels are spending on Hamilton this season, the 32-year-old has turned in a WAR of just 0.1, which is a career low.

What makes this all even worse is that the Angels have the American League’s fourth-worst record and baseball’s sixth-highest payroll.

Early in Scioscia’s tenure his teams were known for being disciplined, exploiting mistakes and being crisp defensively. The current team is essentially the opposite of all those things. It is a roster dotted with overpaid stars and a bloated payroll and looks nothing like his early squads.

The 54-year-old Scioscia is in his 14th season as manager of the Angels. He led the franchise to its only World Series title in 2002 and has won the American League Manager of the Year award twice (in 2002 and 2009). But 14 years is a long time for someone to be in charge of a team and it might be time for a change in voices at the top for the Angels.

That said, Scioscia has a contract that is guaranteed through 2018, while Dipoto is only signed through 2014. It’s hard to imagine Moreno not making some changes this offseason. Our guess is that Dipoto will be gone and the team will attempt to unload some contracts to bolster a weak farm system.

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  1. 6 Responses to “Los Angeles Angels: Mike Scioscia, Jerry Dipoto not getting along”

  2. I think it’s highly doubtful that Dipoto operated in a vacuum when Puljos and Hamilton were signed. Instead, it’s very likely Moreno was a big part of the decision, more than just signing the check. He made it quite clear that he wanted Puljos to become the team leader for the next decade as the Angels try to “capture LA”, especially in the Hispanic community. And it’s well known he was the driving force behind go after Hamilton. So it just doesn’t seem right to blame Dipoto or Sosh for the over-bloated, under-performing veterans clogging the roster. The 3 of them, that is Moreno, Dipoto & Sosh, will have to figure this out without ?Dipoto or Sosh falsely taking the blame alone. If not, then after 27 years, I can safely say that I will no longer be an Angels fan because they have then truly turned in to the ‘Yankee’s of the West’.

    By DPangelFAN on Aug 14, 2013

  3. Where do we start with this team? There are many, many issues…biggest among them is our own Mike Scioscia. I simply no longer get his game management. In fact..it sucks most of the time! Case in point… the first Yankee game on Monday. In the top of the ninth, bases are loaded… 1 out. Trumbo is up. Trumbo has been a liability for a while and was 0 for his last 15. The proper call would have been to pinch hit him for anyone who could make contact to drive in the run to tie the game then put Kalhoun at first and Cowgill in the OF. Instead, Scioscia leaves in Trumbo and he strikes out on balls all out of the strike zone I just don’t get that call. There is no guarantee that a pinch hitter will do anything special but the chances improve with trumbo not hitting. There have been many times during the year when a sac bunt/hit and run/steal were the right calls to make to get a man in scoring position yet those plays weren’t called. I’ve given up counting the number of times that Scioscia screwed up. I don’t care that Hamilton makes 25 mil a year..have him sac a man over, especially if he is facing a lefty and the situation calls for it.
    Yes..both Moreno and Dipoto have made some boneheaded and disastrous moves and we can argue all day long that guys like Hunter, Santana, Morales, Walden and Greinke should still be on the team. When it all comes down to it, the manager has the pulse of the team no matter what lineup is out there and he is the one who drives it. Scioscia has lost his way and has lost the team. Time for him to go.

    By BB on Aug 14, 2013

  4. FIRE SCIOSCIA !!!!!!!

    By Chaplin. on Aug 14, 2013

  5. As an Angel fan for the last 40 years, I have never been so disgusted and embarrassed to admit it. All the Angels big name players(Pujols, Hamilton, Wilson)who get HUGE contracts and fail to produce are crooks. You and several other Angel half-assers are stealing money from the fans that help pay your salaries. I respect Arte Moreno for doing everything in his power to provide the tools (players) to HELP the Angels win. Sorry guys – NO EXCUSES..PERIOD!! I can’t remember a team being so loaded with talent, two years in a row, be so inconsistent, error happy (defensively and offensively), and lethargic.

    I have been saying it for the last 2 1/2 seasons that its time to tip our hats a HUGE THANK YOU, but it’s time for Scoscia to b replaced. I thought Francona would have been perfect eve though I don’t really care for him. I WOUL ABSOLUTELY LOVE to see DICARSINA become the next ANGEL MANAGER. My recommendations to Moreno is reel Dipoto back in and let him fix his mistakes. Here are the moves that I hope to see made during the off-season:
    1. New Manager
    2. Trade Hamilton (preferably Bourgous)
    3. 3-4-5 Starting Pitchers (Drop Fat-Ass Hanson,Blanton) Maybe re-sign Vargas.

    4. Bullpen-Bullpen-Bullpen (get rid of Scoscia’s boyfriend Jepsen. Send them on their Honeymoon to somewhere Same Sex marriage is legal.

    5. Beg Trout not to request a trade. (I would want one if I were him.

    Most of all, Thank You Arte for not adding the color GREEN to the Angels uniform. I am for adding Speedy Gonzales as the new team Mascot!

    By Bryan on Aug 16, 2013

  6. I have been a die hard Angels fan since I went to my first game in 1970. I grew up a Phillies fan and left my hometown to enter the Air Force as the 64 Phillies were blowing the last chance to win a pennant, so I know what is is to be loyal to a losing team. I lived through 1979, 82, 86 and finally 2002 and the monkey was finally off my back. I was in my Season Seats 6 rows from first base for every playoff and World Series home game, it was fantastic.

    What most people don’t remember about 2002 was that the Angels were the wild card, Oakland won 20 straight games, the division and had the movie “Money Ball” made about them. I believe that was Scioscia’s 3rd season and after the previous manager he was a breath of fresh air bringing a winning attitude from the Dodgers and some “All Star” coaches. But.even after winning the “World Series” he couldn’t win the only four team division the next year and despite winning the division in 04,05,07,08 & 09 the Angels have not been to the “World Series” again. The last five years without, Madden, Black, or Ron he is lost. Given a super long term contract by Moreno he has created an “my way or the highway” attitude through out the organization.

    Only Depoto has stood up to him in the last 14 years, firing good friend Hatcher, trading away his favorite catcher, releasing Abreu and bringing up Trout last year. This added to the tension between Mike and Jerry who did not like each other from day one I heard. This year he traded away Wells and Morales, both considered to be anchors, keeping Bourgous on the bench. If you look back at comments from many baseball guys, the pitchers that he brought in this year were some of the best available and some risky but worth the risk. I feel that Butcher does not have the ability to be a major league pitching coach, plus he is hampered by Scoiscia, who is an idiot when it comes to handling pitchers. On another staff these guys might have done well, just look at the success of others after they leave the Angels. I don’t know who was responsible for not signing Hunter and bringing in Hamilton instead, but my guess is it was part of Moreno’s grand marketing strategy to win the LA market that has not worked.

    What I am getting at is that a leader is only as good as those he surrounds himself with and Mike’s “A” team is gone what’s left is the “F” team, but he is so stubbornly loyal that he has never fired a coach while with the Angels, oh yeah this is the only major league team he has ever coached.

    In Summary: Mike needs to go now just as the Phillies have done with Charlie Manual. An almost entirely new coaching staff needs to be hired, by the new manager. DePoto needs to be given another chance with a manager he can work with and Moreno needs to work on Marketing and leave the personnel decisions to the GM and Manager. Don’t make wholesale player changes, Hamilton and Pujols will hit, just lessen the tension get a staff that wants to win together. Add at least one or two more front line starter and find real closer. And do what ever you can to lock up Trout, he is the best player on the team and the biggest fan draw. Give guys a chance, try Trumbo at 3rd, he only got 10 games at third, he is the big power guy we have needed at that position since Glaus. Rebuild the minor leagues, get the guy back that Regans made leave. And finally play American League baseball, it is not the National League we have a DH, stop giving away outs, don’t go on contact every time.

    Finally, I was going to say lower beer prices, but after being a Season Ticket holder for about 40 years I am not renewing my seats so I don’t care. I’ll watch from my 55″ flat screen and drink beer that cost me about a dollar.

    By Goody4Angels on Aug 16, 2013

  7. A buddy of mine who worked in the LAA front office says that Mr. Moreno makes ALL the decisions. He confirms that DiPoto is NO fan of Scoscia. Moreno has a vicious temper using profanity all the time. Moreno fired a young girl for making a mistake on an airline reservation.

    By Greg Riggle on Aug 19, 2013

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