Jalen Rose tried to injure Kobe Bryant during 2000 NBA Finals

September 19, 2012 – 12:00 am by Ryan Phillips

On his podcast on ESPN’s Grantland Network, Jalen Rose made a serious admission in a clip released on Tuesday.

In the audio clip Rose admits that as a member of the Indiana Pacers during the 2000 NBA Finals, he intentionally tried to injure Los Angeles Lakers star Kobe Bryant. As Bryant went up for a jump shot, Rose stuck his foot under the Lakers’ superstar, in the hopes that he would land on it, turning an ankle, or worse.

Bryant did, in fact, land on Rose’s foot during the second quarter of Game 2 of that series. Bryant played just nine minutes in that game (which the Lakers won by seven), and missed Game 3, which the Pacers won 100-91.

Rose said the following in the clip:

“NBA Finals, 2000. Kobe. Bean. Bryant. Goes up for a jump shot on the right wing, I contest the jump shot, Kobe lands on my foot. He hobbles off, and he actually misses the next game.”

“Now, if it was up to me? If it was up to me? He should’ve just missed the whole series. I would have had a championship ring, and it’d be no harm, no foul.”

After badgering from his producer Dave Jacoby, Rose said the following:

“I can’t say that it was an accident.”

When Jacoby asks him how he has maintained a strong relationship with Bryant, Rose replied:

“He never knew I did it on purpose. But now he does.” 

As a former basketball player I can tell you, the foot trick on a jump shot is one of, if not the dirtiest play in the game. Essentially sticking your leg out so someone lands on it and is injured is just plain wrong.

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  1. 67 Responses to “Jalen Rose tried to injure Kobe Bryant during 2000 NBA Finals”

  2. So to review, the DUI arrest, the “Uncle Tom” shot at Grant Hill, ripping the women’s gymnastics team for taking the “Fab Five” name because they actually won something, and now this.

    Maybe I’m missing something, but I’m surprised Jalen Rose has flown under the radar this long as a d-bag. This can’t be a new thing, right?

    By kookoo on Sep 19, 2012

  3. While I think this behavior is pretty despicable, it is rampant in the NBA. In last year’s playoffs, I saw plenty of guys sticking their feet under opposing players when they jump. I saw guys raising their knees to hit opposing players in the balls. It happens all the freakin’ time and the Lakers are one of the worst in the league at this kind of stuff.

    By Steve on Sep 19, 2012

  4. Ummm what? LOL “Lakers are one of the worst in the league at this” I’d much rather you point out players than a whole team to be honest, if you’re just gonna mention the whole team then your probably just a Laker hater because of their success like the rest of them

    By Alex on Sep 19, 2012

  5. Steve – go watch some basketball. Dumb@s$ hater…

    By V on Sep 19, 2012

  6. Lakers success?

    Aren’t they 1-8 in their last two second rounds?

    By eyeballtwo on Sep 19, 2012

  7. ….and didn’t Bill Cartright do that to Patrick Ewing during the 90’s in a playoff game?

    I guess we let that one slide since the media was in the bag for the Bulls and his errorness.

    By eyeballtwo on Sep 19, 2012

  8. Hey alex and kookoo stop hating and your probably know nothing about basketball anyway….probably fans of a team who dont win anything….or bandwagon heat fans….1-8 the last two years….what team had the most championships in the most recent decade…….o yea thats right the lakers won half the ships from 00-10….HATERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    By lakers fan on Sep 19, 2012

  9. O sorry forgot about you too eyeballtwo…. dont hate it makes you look jealous and only females get jealous. :) GO LAKERS!

    By lakers fan on Sep 19, 2012

  10. eyeballtwo you kiddin’ me?? 1-8 in our last two second rounds is right. 17 championships is also right. 5 championships in the 2000’s is also right. And Kobe Bryant, Steve Nash, Metta World Peace, Pau Gasol, and Dwight Howard for a starting 5…you better believe that’s right!

    By Lakers in 2012-13 on Sep 19, 2012

  11. that’s so yesteryear.

    Want to go back to the Sixties and start counting Celtic championships too?

    By the way, there wasn’t a bigger fan of Showtime than yours truly, NONE. I just find that routing for a Pat Riley team and routing for a Phil Jackson team are polar opposites. One exudes class, the other exudes ass.

    Hang your hat on past, not recent, events and you start sounding like Dallas Cowboy fans.

    Yes, the rest of the league is scrambling to figure out what to do when Antwann Jamison gets in the game, because like Artest said, he’s the best offensive rebounder in the game. Somebody needs to redistribute some intelligence to that over the hill wanna be thug.

    Kobe’s lack of perimeter defense coupled with Nash’s inability to defend will be exposed, at least until Howard gets into the paint. Please spare the marketing-driven gifted all NBA defender line. Kobe’s NEVER been a good defender…..if I could be like mike.

    By eyeballtwo on Sep 19, 2012

  12. @lakers fan – Um, I’m not hating on the Lakers at all. I didn’t even mention them…

    By kookoo on Sep 19, 2012

  13. Fellas, fellas…calm down! At the end of the day, Rose simply admitted to doing what many guys/teams do everyday…put a bounty on the biggest threat. It may not be right, but it IS reality. They should all go by the Golden Rule, “Do unto others, as you would have them do unto you”. If you don’t someone playing dirty and possibly jeopardizing your million dollar career, then give others the same respect. That’s all I’m saying!!

    By Avid Sports Fan on Sep 19, 2012

  14. aaam…. look at what kobe did to Yao Ming… his career is over because of that!!!

    By floss on Sep 19, 2012

  15. and i’m not a lakers hater… i jus think kobe is overated… because he can’t play defence… just like carmelo!

    By floss on Sep 19, 2012

  16. The Heat have owned the Lakers the last few years, and have made it past the second round, and are current NBA CHAMPIONS. (sorry for that fact, ESPN, I know that grinds on you)

    OKC is still better than the Fakers.

    Heck, the Lakeshow may not even be the best team in their city.

    What is the Laker payroll at now? Are they approaching Yankees territory?

    By eyeballtwo on Sep 19, 2012

  17. …oops, and just like the media, I forgot that the Spurs are actually quite good, and much much deeper than the Lakers. So now, I’m thinking, do the Lakers finish 4th in the West and get home court officiating, I mean, home court advantage, or do they slip to 5th behind, maybe Memphis or Portland, or Denver.

    By eyeballtwo on Sep 19, 2012

  18. I don’t watch basketbrawl since early 2000s when the Fakers had Tim Donaghy rigging games for them. Tim told told Kobe, ‘you’re the KING OF THE WORLD’, and then rigged it right up for them. Idiot Faker Fans pour their $$$ into a rigged merry go-around, and Kobe living PHAT on your $$$, while the performance is comparable to WWF. When down 3-2, and Kobe sounded like he knew the Fakers would still come out over the Kings – he did. 12 years and a mountain of money later, you are still watching some very high priced choreography. FAKERS ARE THE REAM TEAM. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving city. Kobe thanks you. Kobe have nice life, even with demanding wife. And you, LA, made everything work out perfect for his wife. She thanks you most of all.

    By TBag Kobe on Sep 19, 2012

  19. I can’t believe you guys hate Kobe Bryant so much and have so much disdain for the sport of basketball that you think what Rose admitted to is ok because others do it and have done it. That is not my view of pro basketball and what Jalen Rose has admitted to is unforgivable. Kobe Bryant will be a Hall of Famer, nuff said. Jalen Rose will not. Is Pro Basketball any more fake than any other professional sports, steroids anyone. Get off your high horses guys and gals, sports is sports.

    By Paul on Sep 19, 2012


    By Laker_fan on Sep 19, 2012

  21. Yeah I mean I get it if people want to hate on Kobe but saying he doesn’t play defense is laughable.

    By Ryan Phillips on Sep 19, 2012

  22. I love all you people who call Miami fans bandwagon fans. The same idiots who don’t realize some of us were born and raised in Miami. But then again I’m sure you guys are the same ones who are die hard Laker fans who never once set foot in california. Basketball is full of die hard fans and those in my opinion are the biggest blunders of all time. They talk smack and can’t just love basketball. I’ll always be a Miami fan, but ya gotta give credit to some of the other teams out there and stop being such a douchebag when those teams are good. Laker fans – give credit where credit is due. Miami made it to back to back finals, and is the reigning champs. We all know what LA has done… let’s see what LA DOES.

    By Truth on Sep 19, 2012

  23. Knew that was coming, that’s why I posted:

    “Please spare the marketing-driven gifted all NBA defender line. Kobe’s NEVER been a good defender”.

    Remember LA v Portland back in the day? A reporter asked the coach (I believe Mike Dunleavy) about Kome’s defense, and he said, we go at him. Damon Stoudamire was burning Bryant on the perimeter and Bonzi Wells was making Bryant look like a JV player in the post.

    To me, if you don’t guard the other team’s best offensive perimeter or post player, you shouldn’t even be in the conversation for NBA Defensive team. Kobe doesn’t, mj didn’t. There are only a handful of guys that have been versatile enough to guard anyone on the court, and some of them never got any love from the NBA. Rodman (only in Detroit), Magic, Anthony Mason (in NY and Charlotte), to name a few, and now we have Lebron as the best defender in the league, sorry Tyson Chandler.

    All NBA Defensive team is a marketing tool. That’s why guys like James Posey, Shane Battier, Bruce Bowen seldom get recognized as they should. They don’t score enough points to be on the defensive team – sounds strange, but it’s true. Although, Bruce Bowen did lead the league in 3pt % the first year mj played in DC, and I believe his errorness was last in the league in 3pt % that year.

    By eyeballtwo on Sep 19, 2012

  24. One last thing…those of you running your mouth at each other and thinking it makes a difference… you’re wasting your time. Hater this and idiot that and blah blah blah. Time to take a break and get a life! There’s more to life than BS. I’m certainly not exempt from this. I’m posting too.But not anymore. PEACE.

    By Truth on Sep 19, 2012

  25. balls in hand

    By Ricky Bobby on Sep 19, 2012

  26. You guys are funny, Go back and watch all the games because thet are FIXED!!! NBA= WWE

    By No More Hoops on Sep 19, 2012

  27. Jalen, what do you mean that if it was up to you your infraction would amount to “NO HARM, NO FOUL”?

    There WAS harm since Kobe only played nine minutes of Game 2 and then missed the next game ENTIRELY. If that isn’t harm then your Fung & Wagnall differs from mine considerably.

    Also, injuring another player as a means of securing a championship ring or any lesser honor farces the accomplishment, doesn’t it?? The conclusion I’d draw from behavior like that is that you didn’t have the skill or the brains to achieve your goal without resorting to underhanded (and in this instance, detrimental) tactics. Do you think your peers would respect you more, or less for doing that, Jalen??

    Just because other players have done it, that doesn’t mean those actions should be emulated.That was a stupid remark and a stupid attempt from an otherwise intelligent individual, I’d say…

    Santa Monica

    By sportsbaron1 on Sep 19, 2012

  28. Keep laughing Ryan, and when you are done, tell me why your first team all nba defender seldom guards the other team’s best offensive perimeter player? Hey, I’m a coach, and I know that there are only a few players that can play both sides of the ball effectively, LBJ being one. And I know that coaches typically shrink to the ‘we don’t want to burn hit out on the defensive end’ argument. That’s all fine and good, but that should eliminate you from being considered first team all defense then. Tony Allen is a better defender than Kome, I can say that, cause I don’t have to suck up to the mamba for interviews.

    Why is it every year we hear about and see the Lakers trying to sign perimeter defenders, Artest, Matt Barnes, early days is was Ron Harper? Dude, when you are adding old as spit Ron Harper to boost your perimeter defense, that says a lot about your current team. If you’ve got this perrenial defensive stud on your team, why do you need these guys? The answer is Kome, can’t or won’t play defense, but maybe one play a game, and we’ll see that play ad nauseum on ESPN. Who on the Thunder is Kobe going to take out of their game offensively? How about the Clippers?

    People keep carrying this hatred around for LBJ cause he finished his contract out and went and played for a great GM, organization, and TEAM – (what a crime, didn’t jordan do the same thing, except he went to the Wizards and set that organization back years – and now, laughably wrecking the Hornets), but Kome, after all his rape allegations, court tantrums, and media rants disrespecting his players, coaches, and GM (and Kupchak is a damn good GM)- gets nothing but unadulterated verbal fellatio.

    don’t believe the hype – P.E.

    By eyeballtwo on Sep 19, 2012

  29. Someone tell Goodell. I think there must have been a bounty.

    By nol1dwa on Sep 19, 2012

  30. Playing dirty is what you do when you know just playing isn’t enough. It’s a admission of defeat to use da feet dat way

    By Jake Bluezman on Sep 19, 2012

  31. Jalen, I once considered you on of the best basketball players in the country but this comment about Kobe…… You see people like you destroy the real meaning of the game and make nasty comments about the spoiled and ugly athletes true. Kobe’s an ass but you are the hole! Do you care, no, does it make me care less, Yes!

    By BNig Kahuna on Sep 19, 2012

  32. It’s great to be a Lakers fan!

    Laker haters are some of the most bitter people. No matter how they try to spin it, no team has been more successful. They try to convince you that Kobe’s career of success is all by luck and cheating, yet he still has five rings, a pay scale going to $30 mil. a year, endorsement deals throughout the world, and a drive to win that losers can’t understand(and that is the basis of the bitterness).

    It makes me laugh.

    By Mean Gene on Sep 19, 2012

  33. eyeballtwo – remember when Steve Nash won two MVP’s. That was a sack of …

    The guy can’t play defense. How can a player win MVP when he is a below average on the defensive side? Defense is half a players game.

    That was fixed. Steve Nash can lead a high scoring team to a good regular season record, but when it comes playoffs his teams have flopped.

    By Oscar on Sep 19, 2012

  34. Yo, Gene, dog, I ain’t been bitter the last two years. Oh no, to the contrary. It’s probably been your sorry arse that’s been bitchin’ as your team struggles out of the first round, only to be thoroughly, yes THOROUGHLY, trounced out of the second round. Catch that? Kobe is 1-8 in the last two second rounds. That sound you hear isn’t laker haters bitter, that’s the sound of $30M being tossed out the window, dude.

    No one on this blog insinuated that Kobe’s/Laker’s success has been lucky or by cheating (although game 7 vs Portland does raise some eyebrows).

    Kobe has 5 rings – Robert Horry has 7

    Crack dealers make a lot of money, and Kim Kardasians, who’s talents (if she has any) are overshadowed by her, eh, shadow, has plenty of endorsement deals.

    Make it to the conference championship this year if you can.

    By eyeballtwo on Sep 19, 2012

  35. Eyeballtwo….it’s okay that you’re not a Laker fan, and it’s okay that you’re bitter and jealous of their players, storied history, countless awards, and championships. Hell, it’s even okay that someone gave you a keyboard and access to a computer. What’s NOT okay is that you’re allowed access to the internet, and therefore able to share your lack of firsthand knowledge of the game. Probably never played a single minute of the game yourself at any level other than a PeeWee league for 8 year olds. And now you’re sitting in your dark lonely room acting like you’re a player instead of a pathetic loser who has just enough book knowledge to act like an ass. Please go back to your porn sites and leave the rest of us alone.

    By CSUFan51 on Sep 19, 2012

  36. eyeballtoo, if we are talking the last two years only, I guess you can’t say anything unless your Mavericks or Heat fan, but come on fool!

    So you hate Kobe, eh, so do most losers who can’t understand his will to win… what do you want me say about comparing him to Robert Horry?…if you can’t figure that out, no sense arguing with a fool.

    I have thoroughly enjoyed the last two Lakers seasons. It hasn’t came out as I wished, but you can’t win them all, right? But 5 in the last dozen years would keep any fan smiling (of any team)!

    Conference championship? Those banners may go up in Miami, in San Antonio, in Utah, but the only conference banners in the Staples center would belong to the Clippers.

    We are looking for another Championship Banner! And this year, we got a good a chance as any.

    By Mean Gene on Sep 19, 2012

  37. Hey Floss, Carmelo Anthony doesn’t have 5-freakin’ championships, 2 scoring titles, 14 All-NBA teams, 12 All-Defensive teams (9 times on the first team), 4 All-Star MVP awards, etc…

    By Akimofro on Sep 19, 2012

  38. somethings that happen you just need to keep to yourself and this was one on them.

    By Tony on Sep 19, 2012

  39. I’m not sure why Rose would admit to this publicly. Dude must not be too bright. Also, Kobe is one of the best players in NBA history. Some people hate him but he is going to be remembered as one of the best ever regardless.

    By Charles on Sep 19, 2012

  40. Check out Shaq in Miami putting his foot under Dirk in that NBA Championship series. Despicable. Did Shaq deserve that series? Only if you have admiration for the second best team that year and appreciate dirty play.

    By David on Sep 19, 2012

  41. Speaking of dirty players and purposfully trying to hurt someone, look and see how danny granger from Indiana got hurt when they were ahead of there series this past year with the Heat….. Lebron just happend to keep hif foot under him as granger came down from a jump shot… and then he was out the rest of the series and the heat went on to win…. that was definately intentional……….

    By Observer on Sep 19, 2012

  42. This is in response to what ‘Kookoo’ said about Jalen Rose. I agree that he maybe a d-bag for such selfish acts. The move is a dirty one and as he said that’s why he doesn’t have a championship ring for it.
    On the other hand you have to do your research before you respond on certain matters. This is a quote from an 8/7/12 USAToday article “Rose was granted the trademark to the term “Fab Five” last year, according to Businessweek.com. So as much as you want to be mad about him commenting on the MEDIA attempting to give the USA Olympic team the name. Do your research. He has the right. He went to court and trademarked it well before the 2012 Olympics. So just stick to what he admitted on his show was wrong.

    By Maci on Sep 19, 2012

  43. love him or hate him kobe is still one the best players in the game period!!!!! i do detect some hating by some your comments, give the man do!!!!

    By speak it on Sep 19, 2012

  44. Maybe all those elbows to the face Kobe has thrown over the years came back to haunt him. Just ask Raja Bell. Of course when called on it (Bell threw him down) Kobe showed what a man he is-not. What goes around comes around eventually on the court dont care what league it is NBA or parks and rec. Easy to hate on the man Kobe is.

    By nolakerfansincekobe on Sep 19, 2012

  45. Numbers don’t lie. Kobe.

    By Statistics on Sep 19, 2012

  46. Lol haters gonna hate. Kobe is one the toughest players out there, he plays with injuries that would sideline most players and has done it frequently while maintaining a level of play that is higher than everyone else. Kobe would kill Raja Bell in a cage fight. On the court well… we all see what happens then too. Kobe wins. Keep hatin haters, he’ll have another ring in about 9 months. That’ll give him six championships and two more Finals appearances than Jordan.

    By drewman on Sep 19, 2012

  47. You know what, I bet Kobe could care less what any of you think, and that’s a fact, he’ll just continue to play ball until he wants to quit and that will be that…but if it makes you all feel good to argue, have at it..

    By mary on Sep 20, 2012

  48. CSUFan51

    Was a huge Laker fan during Showtime era if you read previous posts. Still argue that Magic was/is the best player ever.

    What you did was attack me personally without knowing me or without responding to any of the content of my posts. That’s OK, I’ve probably forgotten more basketball in my life than you’ll ever know. I’m comfortable with that.

    I’m allowed to have an opinion that doesn’t bow to the mere mention of Kome. I’m not Shtuart Shcott.

    I’m not poopin’ on the entire Laker organization or their accomplishments. I cheered for 6 of them (I was a fan as early as 72). The Lakers 1989 team was the best team ever as far as I’m concerned. Had Byron Scott not landed on David Rivers in practice prior to their playing the Pistons, the series would have played out differently. I gave respect to Kupchak as a GM, and Jerry West was just as good.

    Let me state again that if you don’t take the game in game out assignment of checking the other team’s best offensive perimeter or post player, you shouldn’t be consider for the all nba defensive team. Just because you score a lot of points – and Kome is the definition of a ‘volume scorer’ – and you are being marketed by the league, doesn’t make you a good defender.

    Who does Kome shut down on the Thunder? Clips? Heat? ____________________ times up. I couldn’t think of anybody either.

    I going back to Public Enemy again – don’t believe the hype. You tube PE if you are too young to remember.

    You let the media make up your mind for you, and you get what you deserve. 20 Jan 2013.

    By eyeballtwo on Sep 20, 2012

  49. Take note Wade

    By Rafael on Sep 20, 2012

  50. nolakerfansincekobe- remember when wade hit kobe in the face during all star game?

    Eyeballtwo – is a coach???… so his teaching his players how to hate….. oh a coach that never coach….:)

    By lakerbull on Sep 20, 2012

  51. @eyeballtwo..Ur an idiot know-nothing! I was going to cut you some slack for a typo for the word “rooting” but you misspelled it TWICE, so statement you wrote below for proof..

    “By the way, there wasn’t a bigger fan of Showtime than yours truly, NONE. I just find that routing for a Pat Riley team and routing for a Phil Jackson team are polar opposites. One exudes class, the other exudes ass.”

    Next time? Spellcheck!!!!

    By PatrickLA on Sep 20, 2012

  52. A lot of Laker-haters on here. If Kobe was such a bad Defender, why did he make 1st team All-defense 9 times? He always guarded the BEST perimeter player on other team, regardless of size differential! I remember up until 2009 or so, Kobe used to basically LOCK DOWN Lebron, an he is 40 lbs lighter and 2 inches shorter, yet if you look up the stats, those were NOT very good statistical games for Lebron!

    Do some research HATERS b4 mouthing off!

    And Jalen at least admits he was what we all know he has always been..a PUNKASS!!

    But he is a good analyst!

    By PatrickLA on Sep 20, 2012

  53. The Heat have owned the Lakers the last 2-3 years, YOU check it out.

    And please Patricia from LA, you’ve got grammar mistakes too, but this is a basketball forum, not english class. You knew what I meant,even if I did mispell a word.

    Laker bull – I don’t teach my kids to hate, just play the game the right way, you know, like Kome did in that playoff game vs Phoenix a few years ago, where he was pissed off at Phil or his teammates or the hotel staff or whatever, and – as the leading scorer on his team – in a close out game, squeezed off like 4 shots in the first half, I guess to prove some point. What a POS! What an example of a petchulant little kid!

    Go get ’em VOLUME SCORER! Why do you think quality FAs aren’t flocking to LA to play with this a$$? They’ld rather play with a team than with a selfish fool like the grounded mamba.

    Get out of the second round lately? 1 – 8

    By eyeballtwo on Sep 20, 2012

  54. Shame on you Jalen! You represented my favorite team.

    By FreeAgentID on Sep 20, 2012

  55. Oh wait: Are we supposed to pretend to be surprised by this kind of thuggery on the basketball court? Oops…

    By MrsMiller on Sep 20, 2012

  56. It’s one thing to comment, but altogether another when some FOOL like “Steve” claims that the Lakers are the worst offenders for this type of dirty play…yeah, I am sure this self appointed judge has all the stats from all the games and has spent countless hours of research to come to this conclusion…what a load of crap and a bald faced lie.

    By chris on Sep 20, 2012

  57. Yes, the Lakers are the staple of good behaviour on the court.

    Bynum slammin’ Berrera on the court, then leaving the court shirtless.

    Lamar Odom’s antics on and off the court.

    Artest with the measured blow to Harden’s head.

    Kome chasing Doug Christie down in the hallway after getting tossed.

    Pure class!

    And if you believe that, then here’s another whopper for you.

    As a Christian I am SO offended by the trashing of my religion that I innocently wonder by a Libyan embassy and my RPG went off. Wasn’t planned, just happened.

    By eyeballtwo on Sep 21, 2012

  58. I probably watch for this tactic more than most since I’ve rolled my ankle no less than 20 times.

    I’m not surprised by Jalen’s honesty. This happens more than most believe. I’ve been to games and have even seen superstars do this to lesser players–no one likes to be shown up.

    It’s a dirty play that is almost impossible to prove intent. It should be an automatic ejection if the replay can show the defender stepped under the shooter for whatever the reason.

    By Javon on Sep 21, 2012

  59. If Jalen Rose did something like this, why come out about it 12 yrs later?! Bruce Bowen was know for doing the same kind of stuff, which is why Ray Allen & Michael Finley were ready to fight rather than play ball, but one of you mention Bowen as one of the top defenders that didnt get the recognition he deserved b/c he didnt make mulitiple all nba D-teams. He didnt get that recognition b/c he was known around the league as a dirty player whom the refs let commit fouls; especially on the stars. As far as Kobe, he was a very good defender early in his career, but has not been as solid in recent years, however if you recall the 1st round series with OKC back in 2010. That series was swung when he was switched on to Westbrook. (Even though Westbrook had not yet developed the deadly free throw line jumper that he has now) Kobe also did a good job locking down James Harden in that last series. Also, note that Kobe was deemed the best defender on the ’08 Redeem team (which included LBJ) by Coach K. So all this nonsensical tom foolery about Kobe not playing D is typical Laker/Kobe hater rhetoric. All yall Laker haters ever do is wait until a year where the Lakers dont win the championship to talk smack about how they were eliminated from the playoffs, but I have news for you; NO TEAM WINS EVERY YEAR! Even if they are expected to. But obviously whoever your teams are dont have those type of lofty expectations, or you probably don’t have a team at all; which in turn, is Laker haterism in its purest form. Get a real team thats actually expected to win more than once every blue moon!

    By Juggernaut584 on Sep 21, 2012

  60. Ok I’m not gonna speak to the Laker haters (I’m a fan and what you think/say won’t change my opinion, thats real fandom) and honstly I don’t feel a need to defend my team ( the championships and hall of fame player and winning seasons speak for themselves) Jalen admitted to some dirty play. He isn’t gonna make the HoF, nobody cares what he did to Kobe anymore anyways. It was dirty he got away with it big whoop. Here is a solid fact to chew on… Between the two teams the Lakers and the Celtics have won half of all NBA championships EVER! The Celtics hold the edge in number, hell the Celtics had perhaps the most complete team of all time during the 60s. The Showtime Lakers where a cultural phenomenon, EVERYBODY and i do mean EVERYBODY in the 80s knew who the lakers players were. Sure hating on Kobe is easy, but think about this…he has 5 rings and he is only 33 years old, hes got miles left on the tires, maybe not fresh miles, and for sure his best years are behind him, but without any doubt he is one of the best players of all time (no he isn’t the second coming of Jordan, but neither is LBJ) now lets look at Lebron, Yes LBJ is a tremendous defender, and IMO the second best in the NBA ( sorry Dwight’s D is so good he changes whole teams gameplans not just one players plan) All that being said…If you arent a fan of the Lakers/Celtics your team is historicly just not as good as the Lakers/Celtics…thats real world math….60 NBA championships 33 of them owned by the Lakers/Celtics and the same said teams also played for 11 other total titles they didnt win so all in all 44 of 60 total NBA titles have been contested by either the Lakers/Celtics or both!

    By Jonathan on Sep 21, 2012

  61. I just like to say one thing about Koby’s defence. Leborn James!!! If Koby doesn’t have any defence, why is King James totally shut down when Koby defends against him. An I am a Laker fan.

    By coolbandit1 on Sep 21, 2012

  62. I love it when these types of “non topic” discussions come up. The topic is Jalen Rose being dirty but finally coming clean with how dirty he was. WTF does Jalen Rose purposely hurting Kobe have to do wit how much money Kobe has made, how many championships Lakers/Celtics have, etc.? The point is there is so much disdain for Kobe because he was the individual best player in his peak, and now in his decline he could have been the scoring champion this past season if he scored like 45 – 50 points in the last game of the season but decided to rest up and think about the team game instead of 1 upping Durant to get another scoring title. No matter what you do, if you are the best, people will hate. Jay-Z and Beyonce are being touted as devil worshippers, Tiger for cheating on his wife, Bill clinton for getting some head and getting caught, etc etc whatever. People always act like what they do is angelic but every person in existence I know has skeletons in they closet. We are all human and make mistakes. Being able to admit that you make mistakes is very honorable even if what you did is unexcusable. People with internal problems that want to crap on others that make mistakes simply need to look in the mirror and reflect on themselves when they make a mistake before judging others actions. Bottom line is, Kobe has done enough in his career to be a household name without a last name. And even when you see Bryant in books and media or wherever you are and no Kobe in front of it, you still think about Kobe. That alone is enough to cause people to hate his ass just because of how much impact he has on the world around him whether it is good or bad. It is never good to applaud something like injuring a player to turn the tides of a series, people like you and me pay very good money to go to the games or hell, watch it on cable tv (my cable bill is well over $100 a month and all i do is keep it on the sports channels), so I pay to see the best, not bs. Whats a Lakers vs Heat game if either or both LBJ and/or Kobe is injured or not playing? Just another BBall game. So in general people, lets clean this mess up and just congratulate people on what they do and keep the negative comments to yourself. Just putting out a negative comment out on the internet shows that you have hate in your blood, just let it go and think about stuff that really matters in life like raising a family or getting promoted at work and let the entertaining stuff like TV and sports be just that, entertainment when you are on your down time.

    By just tim on Sep 21, 2012

  63. eyeballtwo, since you self-admitted to being a coach, I’m assuming you have some college. For you to mention Kobe and the Colorado incident of the past is low and ignorant. Perhaps you remember that the prosecutor resigned. Might it be perhaps he and his team fabricated the story in an attempt to get a conviction against Kobe, and perhaps he himslef was going to get arrested for falsifying evidence. Stick to talking about the Heat.

    By jetam on Sep 21, 2012

  64. So many damn kobe haters. everytime i asked each hater, male or female. why do you hate on kobe so much?? they all say the same thing…….”he think he is the shit” SHIT HE IS!

    By lakerstheshit on Sep 21, 2012

  65. eyeballtwo. i am really SICK OF YOU FOR REAL!

    By lakerstheshit on Sep 21, 2012

  66. wow eyeball2 cry much? You sound scared of a new Laker dynasty being born. Miami finally won a chamionship by getting players that conspired (against league rules) to make a super team grats. ONE championship does not make a DYNASTY and does not change LBJ from the loser he is into a winner. Come back and brag when Miami has three in a row until then you like all the rest have to bow to the Laker dynasty. BTW Miami isn’t getting 2 in row let alone 3.

    By Dave on Sep 22, 2012

  67. talk all the smack you all want, but if you saw kobe carrying two bags walking into a hotel, you’d be like ,”let me help you with one a those kobe!” And then you’d probably flash a smile on top a that! then when you get to his room , you would polish his knob before he puts a hand on it……door knob idiot…but you were thinking it …..i knew it !!! hahaha

    By kev on Sep 24, 2012

  68. Whew, here comes the tolerant Hollywood/Los Angeles crowd,just in time to save this conversation. That-a-way to spread your tolerance, through hate and name calling.

    Hey, did you march for anyone’s First Amendment rights lately? Bet your pretty selective when that subject comes around. Silence any unborn kids lately?

    Heat players breaking rules? Yes, that would be the first time players ever talked to each other off the court in the off season. Better penalize/deamonize them.

    Kobe shutting down LBJ. Must of been the all-star game, cause HEAT have ruled the Lakers the last three years, and one of those years it was Kobe trying to keep up with Flash.

    Clinton’ crime wasn’t getting a monica in the White House office, it was lying under oath – don’t try to rewrite history on me. Remember the dress that wound up under his secretary’s bed? I think that’s why he was disbarred in Arkansas, not for having sex outside of his marriage with an intern.

    Lately the Lakers have struggled mightly, sort of understated, I know. When you’ve won only 11% of your second round contests in the last two years, well, you sort of sucked during those campaigns.

    But keep those ‘kobe was thinking about his team, and not himself’ lines coming. It makes for some comical fiction.

    fa q

    By eyeballtwo on Sep 24, 2012

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